An introduction to a multi-part series.
Here I go. Stepping into the quagmire.
Perhaps one of the most difficult “agree to disagree” type of issues facing the evangelical church today is that of whether or not women should serve as elders, deacons, and/or pastors. Passions run high as Christians debate how to interpret certain biblical passages.
Nevertheless, there are Christians for whom the whole discussion seems pointless, and already settled. Why is this even an “agree to disagree” issue? After all, the Bible is clear on the matter. Some can cite their prooftext, and simply move on.
The objective of this series is to show that while the Bible is clear on many things, the varieties of Scriptural interpretation among godly, Bible-loving believers on this issue actually runs the gamut. It is a lot more difficult than you think to gain a clear idea as to whether or not women can serve as elders, deacons, and/or pastors.
At the same time, getting this issue right is of utmost importance. The consequences of getting this wrong are arguably highly significant, and for some, downright scary, if handled incorrectly. The question of “women in ministry” requires concentrated effort to read and study the Bible, and be in conversation with one another. Trusting in the work of Holy Spirit is crucial. Prayer is paramount. Avoiding extremes is difficult, but necessary. In the words of Robertson McQuilkin, “It seems easier to go to a consistent extreme than to stay at the center of biblical tension.”
I will keep this blog page updated as the series moves along. First, here are the additional blog posts in this series::
- Can Women Serve as Elders, Deacons, or Pastors?
- An Easy Question? Should Women Serve as Deacons?
- What are the Qualifications of an Elder? A “Husband of One Wife?”
- Why the Debate Over “Women in Ministry” is at a Stalemate…. and What to Do About It
- Lame Complementarian and Egalitarian Biblical Arguments
- On the Outsourcing of Women’s Ministry
- #MeToo and the Church: The Abuse of Women, 1 Peter 3:7, Egalitarian vs. Complementarian Solutions?
- Who was Mary Magdalene?
- The 1 Timothy 2:12 Conundrum: I Do Not PERMIT a Woman….
- The 1 Timothy 2:12 Conundrum: I Do Not Permit a Woman to TEACH…..
- The 1 Timothy 2:12 Conundrum: I Do Not Permit a Woman to … (????) AUTHORITY….
- So, What’s the Deal With This Women “Will Be Saved Through Childbearing” Stuff, Anyway?
- Is Evangelicalism On A Slippery Slope Regarding Gender?
- Resolving the Question of Women in Church Leadership: Who Bears the Burden of Proof?
- The Mystery That Church Eldership Reminds Us Of?
- A Modest Proposal to Make Peace Between Complementarians and Egalitarians
- Resources on the Complementarian vs. Egalitarian Discussion
- An Interdenominational Church Asks: What Are the Core Doctrines of the Faith?
- The Church Needs Both Fathers and Mothers: A Plea for Unity and Truth
The above linked blog posts make up the original series that I wrote back in 2019. Also, I will note some previous Veracity blog posts that address particular background issues related to the topic:
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- Deborah’s Dance: Women in Church Leadership? How having men and women in church ministry together is like a dance.
- Aimee Semple McPherson: Disappearing Woman Evangelist. I served as a worship leader, while in college, alongside the wife of the pastor, in a denomination founded by a woman evangelist.
- To The Least of These: Phoebe Palmer. The remarkable story of an often neglected woman from church history.
- Your Desire Shall Be For Your Husband. The story of the 19th century female missionary, Katharine Bushnell, and how Genesis 3:16 has been variously interpreted and reinterpreted in church history. This explains why all complementarians are not all the same.
- A Year of Biblical Doubting #2. A look at the thought and life of Rachel Held Evans, one of today’s most influential, progressive Christian women bloggers, popular among many young people today. Contrast Rachel’s message with that of Mary Kassian, a woman’s conference speaker, who will “kick your rear end,” in the opposite direction.
- Statements: Is “Social Justice” a Gospel Issue? A statement signed by some 10,000 conservative pastors and teachers, in 2018, calling upon evangelical Christians to reject the infiltration of ideologies, like feminism, into the church.
- Jordan Peterson’s Lessons for Christians. Why is it that an atheistic, Canadian clinical psychologist is addressing the crisis of masculinity, while the church remains relatively unheard on the issue?
- Can “Charismatic” and “Liturgical” Christians Worship Together? How we structure the corporate worship life of the church has a bearing on issues pertaining to women in ministry.
- What is an “Elder” of the Church? Elusive and often confusing terms, like “elder,” “pastor,” and “deacon” are a major part of why the conversation about “women in ministry” can be so disconcerting to the average church go-er.
- Augustine on Learning How to “Agree to Disagree” Well. On the posture a believer should have when discussing difficult topics with other believers.
UPDATE 2023: Below is a list of other blog posts published after that initial series came out in the spring of 2019:
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- UPDATE MAY, 2019. Rachel Held Evans Reflections (& Warren Wiersbe, Bonhoeffer, and the Crisis of “Big Tent” Evangelicalism). Advocate for evangelical egalitarianism, Rachel Held Evans, died within a few weeks of my finishing this blog series, shortly after Warren Wiersbe, an evangelical stalwart, and a very conciliatory complementarian Bible teacher, also died. I thought it to be appropriate to tie up the “women in ministry” blog series, with a few concluding thoughts.
- UPDATE October, 2019: I read a great book on the topic of “What is a Christian Conscience?,” that gave me some helpful ideas about the issue of women eldership.
- UPDATE November, 2019: Upon reflecting on a well-publicized incident, whereby Pastor John MacArthur urged popular woman’s Bible study teacher Beth Moore to “go home,” I thought I would look at another way of addressing this issue: Do We Still Have Apostles Today, in the Church?
- UPDATE April, 2020: Some Christians have a rather cavalier attitude towards the Apostle Paul’s prohibition against extravagant dress, or the wearing of jewelry, in 1 Timothy 2, as though the Apostle’s instructions were merely addressing a particular cultural situation. A look at the broader Scriptural context shows that Paul is instead making a particular cultural application of a timeless principle: Does the Bible Teach Women Should Never Wear Braided Hair of Jewelry?
- UPDATE March, 2021: Should women keep silent in the churches? I Corinthians 14 says that, but what does it mean? It may not mean what you think.
- UPDATE July, 2021: A post with a brief argument as to how the question of women eldership relates to church growth. Is the church a business or a family?
- UPDATE August, 2021: A review of Beth Allison Barr’s provocative The Making of Biblical Womanhood. The evangelical movement needs to move on from the older complementarian/egalitarian debate, and seriously reconsider how, in the practice of Christian worship, to express the truth of being created in the image of God, both male and female, in an age where gender is reduced to being merely a social construct.
- UPDATE March, 2022: Did Paul Really Write Ephesians and Colossians? … (and Why Women Should Care). A bit of a rabbit trail, but an important one, as the complementarian/egalitarian debate has raised serious questions about the authorship of some of Paul’s letters.
- UPDATE June, 2022. A Complementarian Vision? Kevin DeYoung on Men and Women in the Church. I review Kevin DeYoung’s book, which is representative of why might be called a “hard complementarian” position regarding how women should lead in a local church.
- UPDATE May, 2022: Rediscovering Scripture’s Vision for Women: Lucy Peppiatt on Men, Women… and Family? I read Kevin DeYoung’s book alongside Lucy Peppiatt’s book, which representative of an “egalitarian” position regarding how women should lead in a local church. I finished reading Peppiatt’s book after reading Kevin DeYoung’s book, but finished writing the Peppiatt review before the DeYoung review.
- UPDATE March, 2023: Embracing Complementarianism: A Review. My review of a moderate or somewhat “soft complementarian” perspective regarding how women should lead in a local church, by Graham Beyond and Jane Tooher.
- UPDATE May, 2023: Men and Women in Christ, by Andrew Bartlett. An Extended Review. This lengthy review encapsulates about four years of research into the complementarian/egalitarian debate, thus reflecting the most up-to-date articulation of how the Bible should be read regarding this controversy.
- UPDATE June, 2023: What About Head Coverings in 1 Corinthians11? — The New Testament’s Weirdest Passage? This is the lead article for the summer 2023 blog series, all about head coverings!!
- UPDATE November, 2023: Andrew Bartlett responds to my book review of his book Men and Women in Christ, and I offer a rejoinder to his response. Then Andrew Bartlett offers a “last word” on our conversation. This is a very interesting, in-depth, and engaging dialogue!!
By the end of the original blog series in 2019, you will get an idea of where I am coming from. So, if you are going to read any of these blog posts, please READ ALL OF THEM IN THE INTIAL SERIES BEFORE making a final judgment on what I am saying (I do welcome your comments below). The punch line will come in the last one or two posts, but to get the full sense of it, you should read all of the preceding posts in the series…. and, yes, you might want to keep your Bible handy, as I will be going to God’s Word quite often (or you can just follow the hyperlinks in the blog posts, instead).
The blog posts that came out since 2019 (linked above) have helped me to refine my thinking. I stopped blogging in-depth about this topic in 2023. I might make a few additional blog posts in the future, as there are newer books to come out that address this topic that does not seem to go away, from both the complementarian and egalitarian sides of the discussion. It just seems like this debate will never end, and life is too short to keep focusing on this.
I will say up front, that in giving my view, I could be wrong. Utterly wrong. Or more likely, perhaps a few points wrong, here and there. My perspective has shifted over the years, and it could shift again. But what I do hope is that folks can take this seriously, and treat it is an important perspective in the ongoing discussion. It is a plea for unity, but it is also a plea to pursue truth, and never abandon the pursuit of truth.


February 6th, 2020 at 5:37 pm
Anglican theologian Gerald McDermott was once an advocate for women’s ordination for presbyters, but now he opposes it. McDermott supports ordination for women at the diaconate:
https://www.patheos.com/blogs/northamptonseminar/2020/02/04/womens-ordination-and-charity/?utm_medium=email&utm_source=BRSS&utm_campaign=Evangelical&utm_content=260
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October 31st, 2022 at 7:44 pm
A modification of Anglican Gerald McDermott’s argument, augmented by Barbara Gauthier:
https://northamanglican.com/women-and-men-in-ministry/
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November 12th, 2024 at 9:40 am
Hi ,
St. Paul said in, (1Corinthians 14 :34), ‘Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permi tted unto themto speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.’
The later verses are,
(1Corinth 14 :35,36)’And if they will learn anything,let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only?’.
St, Paul was with Holy Spirit.This is seen in,(Acts 20:22): ‘Paul says
that the Holy Spirit told him that jail & suffering await him if he goes to Jerusalem. ‘
lt is written in ( 2 Peter 1:20,21 ),:’Knowing thisfirst, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any
private interpretation.For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of
God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.’
in (1Tim. 2:12), St. Paul says,’I suffer not a womanto teach, nor to usurp authority over the man,
but to be in silence.’
Though women can’t preach & lead in the church,( Phill. 4 : 3)
states, ‘Women canlabour in the Gospel.’
‘They may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands,to love their children, To be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to theirown husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed’. (Titus 2:4-5)
It is because,
‘There is neither Jew nor Greek; there is neither slave nor free; nor is there male & female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.’
(Galatians 3:28 )
‘Christ is all & in all.’(Colossians 3: 11)
Based on above verses,
& (1Corinthians 11 :5 ) ,if any woman gets God’s prophecy through visionor dream, she can pray & tell other women. But
she can’t preach or teach
in congregation.
Following are the verses about gracious woman
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‘A gracious woman gains honor.’ (Proverbs 11:16)
‘Her value exceeds pearls; all you desire can’t compare with her.’
(Proverbs 3:15 )
‘ She is clothed with strength & dignity. ‘(Proverbs 31:25)
These were the blessed women in the Bible _:
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1)Mary,,,, Jesus ‘ mother.
2) Ruth
3)Mary Magdalene
4) Ester
5) Hannah (1 Sam2:10)
6) Eve.,, was blessed.
7) Deborah (Judges 4 :9)
8)Miriam , the prophetess
(Exodus 15 : 2o)
9) Sarah (Gen. 17:19)
10) Elisabeth (Luke1 : 41)
11)Mary (sister of Martha )
12) Martha
13) Jehoiada (2 King
11 :17)
14) Shiphrah & Puah
(Exodus 1:15,21)
15) Rachel ( Gen. 30 : 22)
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